This post is now outdated. I am leaving it here for the record (and to preserve the comments). My knowledge when I wrote this is nothing compared to what I know know and understand about the world and its power structure. It is still true that feminism is nothing more than an arm of socialism, designed to contribute to the destabilisation of Western society for the purposes of increasing the effectiveness of the globalist social engineering programmes. Search this site for information regarding this. The more you read, the more you will see.
This site is about unravelling the tapestry or lies and myths surrounding feminism, corporatism and communism. It started off with Men’s Rights, but over time research has required this site to grow to encompass the larger framework that feminism is just a part of.
There are three main ‘-isms’ that people need to be aware of. Socialism (Communism), Feminism and Environmentalism.
These ideologies are only different in name and the group they target. The goals are the same. Total government regulation of society. (It is what is best for the serfs you see.)
Socialism seeks to reduce the rights of all under the assumption that society is unequal (some have wealth some do not, some have private property, some do not etc.) The ’solution’ being ‘community’ (this means government) controlling the means of production and the distribution of wealth, among other things. The ‘bourgeoisie’ is the perpetrator, the working class is the victim. The solution of ‘equality’ enables government to use political correctness to set various groups in opposition, systematically reducing the rights on one to cater to the other, usually through more restrictive laws and regulations such as those controlling birth options, freedom of speech and media exposure.
Feminism seeks to reduce the rights of men under the assumption that men are intrinsically evil, they all hate women and have been oppressing women forever. Not only is it the male problem, it is the heterosexual problem. Men are the perpetrator, women are the victim.
“Feminism is the theory, lesbianism is the practice.” — Ti-Grace Atkinson
Women must follow feminism in order to escape the ‘patriarchy’. Feminism seeks to tell women how to behave and to control the means of production and the distribution of wealth, using the government. They do this by the perpetual ‘War on Patriarchy’ exemplified by the incessant allegations of women being victims of men, therefore men must be controlled. They also advocate the destruction of the nuclear family:
“[The nuclear family is] a cornerstone of woman’s oppression: it enforces women’s dependence on men, it enforces heterosexuality and it imposes the prevailing masculine and feminine character structures on the next generation.” – Alison Jaggar, Feminist Politics and Human Nature
The destruction of marriage:
“We can’t destroy the inequities between men and women until we destroy marriage.” – Robin Morgan (ed), Sisterhood is Powerful, 1970, p.537
Homosexuality:
“The simple fact is that every woman must be willing to be identified as a lesbian to be fully feminist.” – (National NOW Times, Jan. 1988)
Birth control:
“More children from the fit, less from the unfit—that is the chief aim of birth control.” — Margaret Sanger, Birth Control Review, May 1919 (vol. III, no. 5); p.12.
And eugenics:
“Birth control: to create a race of thoroughbreds.” – Margaret Sanger, Birth Control Review, November 1921, (vol. V, no. 11); p.2.
“The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.” – Margaret Sanger, letter to Clarence Gamble, Dec. 10,1939. – Sanger manuscripts, Sophia Smith Collection, Smith College. (Dec. 10 is the correct date of the letter. There is a different date circulated, e.g. Oct. 19, 1939; but Dec. 10 is the correct date of Ms Sanger’s letter to Mr. Gamble.)
(Thanks to Rob Fedders for his quote library.)
In order to do this, feminism must encourage the population to give up their individual rights to government, to ‘ensure equality’ between the sexes is maintained (by the jackboot of totalitarianism.)
Environmentalism has the same M.O. Only this time everyone is the perpetrator and Earth is the victim, specifically through ‘pollutants’ such as the naturally occurring gas, Carbon Dioxide.
“The threat of environmental crisis will be the ‘international disaster key’ that will unlock the New World Order.” – Mikhail Gorbachev, quoted in “A Special Report: The Wildlands Project Unleashes Its War On Mankind”, by Marilyn Brannan, Associate Editor, Monetary & Economic Review, 1996, p. 5
The solution for environmentalists is, again, to have governments (global government eventually) regulate society to control the means of production and have the world under a set of common laws. Also contained within their ideology is that the number of people is too many, and must be reduced to ‘protect Gaia’. So they also push for population control, depopulation and the control of natural resources, by big government of course.
“A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.” – Ted Turner – CNN founder and UN supporter – quoted in the McAlvany Intelligence Advisor, June ‘96
Notice how feminism attacks and controls relationships between men and women (the foundation of society). Socialism/ communism attacks and controls society itself, and environmentalism attacks and controls the whole of Mankind.
“We shall have World Government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World Government will be achieved by conquest or consent.” — Statement made before the United States Senate on Feb. 7, 1950 by James Paul Warburg
“National Socialism will use its own revolution for establishing of a new world order.” — Adolph Hitler during World War II
We only embrace ‘equality’ under law, not a communist equality forced on people by the government under the guise of ‘ensuring fairness.’
We are not politically correct.
We go by these rules:
1. Educate yourself.
This is very important. You have to take time to read up on these ideologies and their offshoots in order to obtain a clear grasp of your enemy. This will not only give you confidence in addressing these points, it will also help you to understand things in society, and connect events that are seemingly separate.
2. Take no shit.
Do not allow anyone (that includes women) to shout you down or attempt to shame you into silence or compliance when you are making a valid point. Call them on their bullshit and put them in their place. If they don’t like it, fuck ‘em. Doesn’t stop what you’re saying being true, does it?
3. Pay attention to the media.
Take mental notes of the bias in reporting issues. You will soon be able to plainly see the kid glove treatment of single mothers, feminists, environmentalists, and other politically protected groups in all forms of news.
4. Learn their tactics.
A good general knows his enemy. He will be able to predict the opposing sides’ counter moves and act accordingly. Learn their myths and lies so as soon as they start vomiting them at you (they always do once you get them on the back foot) you can destroy every single one. It is fun to watch them squirm under the endless barrage of facts and reality. Reality bites, indeed.
5. You are at war.
Whether you like it or not. You are. A psychological war. You have been thrust into its midst since birth. You have no choice but to capitulate to their agenda, or fight back. If you choose to fight you are going to come up against plenty of resistance (psychological denial or ’slides’ to use the CIA term). You are dealing with an agenda that has been around for decades, and has infested all areas of society. The pubic have been brainwashed. They generally do not take the change of mental paradigm necessary to free them without much struggling. Only being willing to listen after something bad happens to them, which by then is usually too late. (Divorce, child custody, abortion, false rape claims and the like). A large part of this brainwashing is down to 24/7 corporate media, which I might add, is not all it is cracked up to be.
6. Spread the word.
If you have the time, start your own blog or website, confront people about current events, feminism, global warming and their associated bootlickers, refer them to the blogs and sites you have read. Tell people! Everything we (and you) say is backed up by evidence. Learn the sources so you can cite the truth to make your case.
7. Ignorance is bliss?
Bullshit. Ignorance is slavery. Your mind is being freed and they are living in a psychological fantasy. Once you have the knowledge, you will see this. Learning the truth is addictive. Why? Because it is in your nature. That it why these scumbags begin brainwashing children from the moment they can walk. It prevents people from ever having the opportunity to know that reality might be different.
8. Watch women.
Study their behaviour. Women are not your enemy per se, but they are generally (with very few exceptions) narcissistic, superficial, corporate whores. Just look at the programs they love, the magazines they drool over and the things they talk about. Learning how they are is very important if you want to protect yourself from the danger they can pose. Even if you feel a women would not do ‘x’ to you, remember that if she ever changes her mind (as if women ever do that!) the law is there, waiting to back up almost anything she wants to do, including assault, murder, lying to a judge, child abuse, the list is endless. Watch your back comrade and thank feminism for it.
9. Stand tall.
Do not be afraid to be a man. The whole idea of the ‘new man’, ‘metrosexuals’ and other bollocks was created by feminists to try and turn men into limp wristed, apathetic, soft speaking, weak willed, superficial, narcissistic, self important consumers. In effect, feminising men.
Well fuck that shit. Don’t let the constant gynocentric media grind you down with adverts of stupefied men acting like idiots, stories of ‘deadbeat’ dads everywhere, men being ‘useless’ and women being ‘independent wonderful creatures’ blah blah fucking blah. Don’t forget what men have contributed to Mankind and the sacrifices they have made fighting tyranny.
Exactly. Tell them to shut the fuck up.
10. Feminists are idiots.
“Our culture, including all that we are taught in schools and universities, is so infused with patriarchal thinking that it must be torn up root and branch if genuine change is to occur. Everything must go – even the allegedly universal disciplines of logic, mathematics, and science, and the intellectual values of objectivity, clarity, and precision on which the former depend.” – A quote from Daphne Patai and Noretta Koertge, “Professing Feminism: Cautionary Tales from the Strange World of Women’s Studies” (New York, Basic Books, 1994), p. 116
“Mankind’s problems can no longer be solved by national government. What is needed is a world government. This can best be achieved by strengthening the United Nations system.” – Human Development Report, published by the UN Development Program, 1994
“We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries.” – David Rockefeller, Bilderberg Society meeting, 1991
“The creation of a United Europe must be regarded as an essential step towards the creation of a United World.” – Jean Monnet, founder of the European Economic Community, 1948
“We are moving toward a new world order, the world of communism. We shall never turn off that road.” – Mikhail Gorbachev, 1987
“A total world population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.” - Ted Turner, in an interview with Audubon magazine
“Our job is to give people not what they want, but what we decide they ought to have.” - Richard Salent, former president, CBS News
“For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure — one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.” - David Rockefeller, from his book, Memoirs, 2002
For any other so-called feminist who comes to this page. Before you leave comments based on your own self-centered opinions of feminism, read through this blog (and the others I have linked to) thoroughly. Read them all for months, and if you want to refute the basic position I make on this blog (that feminism is nothing more than a Marxist ideology designed to destroy the family and destabilise society, with the goal of rearranging it into a communist ‘utopia’) do it with evidence. Not your personal feelings.
I don’t give a shit about your ‘feelings’. It is because of a feminised society being led by ‘feelings’ and not LOGIC and EVIDENCE that we are in the position that we now find ourselves in.
If you want a current overview, just read EVERYTHING on this page;
http://www.angryharry.com/index.html
Thank you Hannah, for graciously giving us your most preeminent insight; it was highly enlightening I’m sure – for your psychologist.
FMW: Well done. You have managed to weave a “philosophy” culled entirely out of news snippets.
Now, if I tell you about the time I was molested as a little girl in the flipping LIBRARY, of all places, and was too scared to say anything, you’d shrug. If I tell you that a man dragged me into the bushes and got his hands all over me preparatory to rape when I was walking home from the station one night, until I got him a good one in the balls, and when I staggered into the police station the MALE plods just snickered behind their hands and said, oh well dear, no harm done, eh? and when I insisted on making a report, made it very clear that they’d make no attempt to track this guy down, well, you’d shrug and tell me it’s not about ME. It’s not PERSONAL. It’s about the men that have suffered in your carefully-selected clips.
Men do godawful things all the time, and have been protected by men in the individual world and the corporate world and the political world. Men have been in positions of power for a lot longer than women and have abused that power, but that’s just OK with you, isn’t it? Just on the physical assault level of rape and beatings, “she was asking for it” has covered up a lot. I can guarantee you that there have been many times more real rapes that went unpunished than there have been false accusations of rape, reprehensible though I find those to be.
I’d have a perfect right to come up with the same jejune theories and half-baked self-righteous whining that you and your acolyte JB have come up with, only centering on men and male-dominated (and it IS still male dominated) politics. But I don’t. Because I have brains.
Sometimes people, of both sexes, do crappy things. Sometimes the pendulum swings too far in one direction or another as society inevitably changes. Is there a lot about our political system (in both the US and Britain) that I don’t like? Absolutely. Do I think there are appalling, corrupt, and frankly wicked decisions made? Absolutely. Did I object to the Iraq war and the philosophy behind it? From the very beginning, absolutely. Do I think it’s all about a central agenda run by one cabal? No. Do judges sometimes make poorly thought-out decisions? Absolutely. But not all the time, which is why those incidents that you consider argument enders make the news to both inflame the unintelligent and to put the system on notice that things are getting absurd.
I’m deeply grateful that I know men, including my husband of 28 years, who have the wit to see beyond the kind of half-chewed rubbish you’re regurgitating.
You’ll be happy to know that I’m done. If you want to sit around feeling wronged and grandiose and paranoid and self-righteous, have a lovely time.
I’m not sure why astring of previous posts has disappeared. Perhaps it was the puppet Obama.
JB, I’m assuming, since you’re embarrassed to say your age, that you’re late teens/early twenties. I’m not at all ashamed to say that I’m 50 (as of Thursday, in fact) and I’ve lived on four continents, through various political and social upheavals and in a variety of big cities and rural communities. I’m still laughing over being called a drug-addled hippy. My kids immediately called all their friends and they all absolutely fell about.
I’m assuming that you are young because clearly you have a rosy, chocolate-box-pretty idea of the “fabric of society” of the good old days. Want to know what it was really like? My dad and his generation stood up when a woman entered the room, dutifully paid the bills, created that pretty picture of a nuclear family.
Behind the scenes he was beating my mom, who didn’t leave, because her parents had that “you made your bed, now lie in it” family-values mentality and in those days there were no battered women’s shelters.
Eventually it all blew up when at the age of 13 I ran screaming to the neighbor’s house in the middle of the night when I actually thought he was going to kill her. At that point they split up and she was left in the middle of Africa with 5 kids and no money. And just for laughs, when she went back to England at the age of 50 and started to make a living—my mom, who had never even written a damn check, still with 3 kids at home and no child support—my dad actually went after HER for alimony. That didn’t make any of FMW’s clips, of course.
And my uncle is still bitter over the fact that with those wonderful old fashioned family values, when he went to my grandfather to ask him for permission to marry (they still did that in those days) my grandfather refused on the principle that he didn’t think my uncle could support her. He would never have anything to do with my uncle and his wife for the rest of his life when they got married anyway—and lived in fine style on his income, very happily, until 48 years later my aunt popped an aneurism.
So yeah, I have no affection for the old system and I’ve re-made it for my family. I’m dependent on my husband’s love but not on his income.
Think that’s just all about ME? Well, ask some of my generation, the one you so despise.
And guess what? There’s a classic truism about the worst kids belonging to teachers and policemen and strict religious families. And it’s correct. I’m out there with those kids. For all my “addled hippy values” I’ve brought up pretty decent kids who have part time jobs, make straight As in school, volunteer, and are polite and respectful and funny. True, they call all our friends by their first names, but they actually know what respect is—unlike all those kids who say yes ma’am and then go out and torture animals and do drugs, or scream at teachers in the classroom.
You know what? I LIKE people. I live in the real world, not some dark fantasy world. I know that people are pretty complex. I know that the farmer I buy apples from has incredibly forceful right wing views and would die of shame if you ever called him an organic farmer, but he looks after the earth, worries about his bees and uses the most benign chemicals he can study up on. Now I could rail about his role in local politics and chaunter on about his asshole generation, but we get more done by being friends. Which we are.
You may think that you are being grand and sweeping by talking about the sins of various generations, and indeed every generation has complained about the one before and the one after, back to Pliny and probably before. Believe me, your kids’ (if any woman is fool enough to marry you) generation will have equally bitter words to say about YOUR generation. But how pointless and divisive.
Now if I were going to criticize your generation, I’d say your problem is that you’re the YouTube generation. You are bombarded with information—more information than anyone has ever seen—and you are not disciplined enough to examine it, criticize it (in the old fashioned sense) and reason it out.
Yes, I’d already seen the Obama Deception. Put on a serious sounding voice, do some slick editing, take things way out of context, make some delusional conclusions, fail to examine the motives of the “guests” and director, add some doomy music and hey, OOOOOOH. Did’ja see that? OOOOOH. Thank God WE are in the know now.
It’s the dead-babies approach to selling war. It’s Michael Moore, only worse. Moore, at least, always gets in some extremely insightful points before he ruins it all with cheap shots and lazy hit and run thought processes.
Fortunately, though, I know enough smart people not to make blanket statements about your generation or any other. Nor am I fool enough to fall for that kind of video. Please, try reading widely and talking to people who challenge you. Try actually thinking some time.
Hannah, you don’t get it do you. I’m not interested in your opinions as a ‘feminist’. I’m interested in the opinions of people in power who call themselves ‘feminists’. You’re entitled to think and feel what you like, obviously. That should go without saying.
But this isn’t about you.
Government employees, influencing laws and legislation results based on their Marxist ‘principles’ results in their flavour of feminism being imposed on everyone, usually using a dialectic to sell it.
From example, when men are banned from sitting next to children on flights, or forced to pay support for a child that isn’t his, or how female false rape accusers are protected by anonymity even when their LIES have destroyed men’s lives, and even if their identity is known, they can be completely let off.
That makes it MY problem.
By the way, read this:
http://no-maam.blogspot.com/2007/01/from-comments.html
I’m not the one playing stupid games.
JB–No, literally, how old are you?
And my earlier comment was directed not at you but at FMW, who presumably added that blog post because he finds it interesting. God knows why.
Our posts must have crossed.
I think your last comment ought to have been directed towards the author of that other blog Hannah.
LOL–you dismiss a woman simply because she prefers to distance the US from President Bush’s exceedingly dumb and divisive ranting about “the axis of evil”? And from policies and a war that have caused us inestimable harm?
How many wars would you like as to have? Are you simply trying to destroy America?
Aha–got it. You are, in fact, an armchair terrorist.
Hannah: I’m part of the generation that is supposed to be paying your pensions. Also – if we haven’t been too badly lamed by our poor upbringing, and if we can finally get out from under your shadow – the generation that will have to deal with your legacy of foolish, naïve, and gullible idealism, which you so brilliantly paired with rampant, materialistic consumerism.
Either we can deal with it, or God knows what our children are going to have to face.
http://malechauvinist.blogspot.com/
J–How old are you?
Hey, I like my Plasticene-looking buddy – how dare you!
I guess you must be a baby boomer. You guys have a lot to answer for; what a corrosive mix of hippy values and – sell out, drug addled – hypocrisy. (Yes, I wish I’d been there.)
It is the feminism of your era I have a problem with; where the very fabric of society came under attack. The results should be plain to see; but no, everyone still seems to be patting themselves on the back and saying what a great job they’ve done! Are they blind? (You may identify yourself as a feminist – that is up to you – this is not intended as a personal attack; I’m talking about the political movement itself, and the results of what it did, and what it continues to do. The stated aims aren’t even bad; who is going to argue with ‘freedom’, or ‘equality’? Look at the actual policies and their results though!)
Conspiracy theories may look silly to people – if they haven’t bothered to actually investigate them. (Okay, some of them are nuts, but you’ll notice consistencies which are difficult to ignore.)
What about global government? How do you feel about that? You don’t have to be a conspiracy nut to be aware of phrases like ‘new world order’ (sometimes they throw in the word ‘financial’ as well), or the North American Union. Some people have stated global government is already here in the form of the UCC (Uniform Commercial Code). The financial aspect is key; where is the real power and influence in the world? How did Obama get elected? His government is a front – that is why FMW refers to him as a ‘puppet’. See Alex Jones’ documentary “The Obama Deception”; FMW posted it recently on this blog. Follow the money!
Doesn’t it make you nervous when your President refers your constitution – designed to keep government in check – as ‘just a piece of paper’! This stuff is really happening. I hear there are States which have deemed it necessary to produce bills asserting their sovereignty. I’m rooting for ballsy Americans to stand firm against anti-democratic, authoritarian, totalitarian, and collectivist traitors! If you guys can’t do it, I don’t fancy our chances very much.
I sure hope we can fix our problems too. It might help us if your generation were able to admit some of their mistakes.
Probably because I’m good at math. (Even though I’m a girl!) Two and two make four, not 1984.
I’m not cooing “il faut cultiver notre jardin,” but on the other hand I’m not paranoid by nature.
Lots of people don’t like guns—hell, I don’t like guns. My friend’s kid was shot to death—and there have been many doomed attempts to restrict them, although the Supreme Court recently ruled on keeping them around (oops—your Plasticene-looking buddy didn’t forsee that one). Me, I’ve taught my daughters to shoot on the principle that if guns are going to be around, and at this point it’s too late to think they ever won’t be, they’d better know how to use them safely. And anyway, they’ve both gone to wilderness survival camp. But it is beyond stupid to suggest that the government is behind a deep, dark conspiracy to de-gun the population. And as for the relentlessly silly comments about Waco… Talk to my BIL the New York cop. He’ll tell you all about what he sees and why people want to restrict guns.
The PNAC? Well, I actually think that although they were beyond arrogant and highly dangerous, and doubtless not a little motivated by greed, they were fairly open about it. What with the public website and all. Conspiracy? A limited and public one, let’s say. Hardly a gunpowder plot, although it was about as successful. Do less formalized theories drag us into crappy situations? Sure. I’ve never forgotten JFK’s adventures in Guatemala or Nixon’s decision to topple Allende, despite assurances from the CIA that he was no threat to the US. Is it all of the government all of the time, plotting to bring its citizens to their knees? OFGS.
Real ID? Scares the shit out of me, but mainly because of the potential for bungling, misuse and ID theft. I’m not ignoring the fact that with RFID chips it would make you trackable, and although I’m not planning anything nefarious I don’t like that thought, but I also don’t see myself as a tagged wolf in a research experiment.
I’m one of the “crazies” that don’t like fluoride in the water, although I think it’s a most excellent thing on a toothbrush. Would I give it to my kids? Hell no. (And luckily, because we’re on a well, I don’t have to.) Do I think fluoride is some massive plot to rob us of our will and health? Leaving aside the issue of advertising experiments and Alcoa’s interests, no. Not at all.
Nor do I think that Gardasil, which, sadly, brought me here, is a plot. Would I let my daughters get it? Again, hell no. But I think it was well-intentioned, albeit recklessly pushed, and not conspiracy-driven.
I think there are a lot of problems in the world. I just don’t think they exist because of some grand all-encompassing conspiracy.
Part of the problem is that there is just so much stretching and manipulation of facts to make the facts fit the theory. Take your buddy FMW. When faced with a feminist who doesn’t fit his mold, his impulse is to belittle. “you obviously rely on whatever you think feminism is as a large part of your identity. But that’s your problem, and it a general issue with women.” Oh! Silly me! I hadn’t realized I was using feminism like a fashion accessory (that corporate whore thing again).
The vast majority of feminists, including my 86-year old mother, don’t fit the mold that FMW has based on a few context-free and dated quotes and some ramblings from various lunatics. So they can’t be feminists. QED.
The other part is that this feminism/socialism/environmentalism dragnet makes the rest of us look silly when we try to point out or, God help us, fix problems. And that I can’t forgive.
So, you recognise influential groups (like PNAC) with dubious intent then? Also, RealID scares you. Why is that? Don’t you trust the government?
Why not start to put some of these things together?
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Why would you watch such a puerile thing? Not funny, not intelligent, not prescient.
And the trouble with that sort of thing is that it makes any intelligent person roll their eyes so much that they are prone to dismissing concerns about REALLY scary things, like Real ID.
You conspiracy theorists have a lot to answer for,inadverently giving legitimacy to all kinds of dubious enterprises. PNAC-type nuts just love you.
This was done for Christmas 2007:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwz_F2Gwo-U
America: land of the brave; home of the free?
None of that would worry you though would it?
Oy vey. No wonder you’re worried about the end of men.
We all have to get our kicks one way or the other I suppose.
I’m pretty tired of you Hannah; you will have to open your eyes to see.
JB: And men fell like anvils for the Marlboro cowboy freedom image. More visual. As men tend to be. And?
You may well be deriding everyone, not just women, for being sheep, although I haven’t seen much evidence of that. Mr FMW certainly seems to reduce all women to Fem Bot sheep.
And I’ll say that I dislike the pile-on mentality and lack of curiousity and personal responsibility that appears to be rampant among a segment of the population.
But we’re having this conversation because I was, how shall I put it, ASTONISHED at the curiously dated spew about feminists on this site when I stumbled upon it–spew, might I add, that you appear to be slavishly agreeing with in your comments.
You might want to listen to NPR’s segment on the end of men. The Y chromasome is apparently dwindling. Shucks, those darned environmentalists might have a point or two.
I laughed my ass off over a wimpy little man whining that men have been enslaved by the availability of endless football and porn and just had no choice but to lie in front of their big screen TVs because of the rise of big bad women.
*Sigh*
The “torches of freedom” thing applied to women!
I’ll state what I’m saying for myself thank you.
I concede that men can be sheep too. I want everyone to wake up and be aware of the types of psychology which are used on us – and we are all susceptible.
If you are perfectly happy with the way things are Hannah, then that is fine. Good luck to you.
Yeah, but you’re drawing conclusions about women in particular based on something that applies to everyone.
You’re saying women MUST be being manipulated by bitter women/the puppet Obama state/the evil greed Rockefellas because we’re all easy marks for advertisers.
If I made that kind of fallacious generalization about men, you’d be shrieking. Or at least, I’d hope you would.
Of COURSE it’s about personal experience. If you have this grand abstract philosophy about how women behave, and yet some, even most, women in the real world don’t behave like that, don’t you think you need to rethink your philosophy?
Hannah: I was limiting it to what we are talking about.
Why do you limit the discussion even further to your own personal experience of this or that happening down the road?
BTW, contrary to your “corporate whores” thing, in most families I know the man is the one who spends lavishly while the wife tries to stick to a budget.
Do I deduce, therefore, that men are corporate rent boys? No. I’m not that stupid.
PEOPLE are frequently susceptible to advertising. Obviously. Why limit it to women?
Now, don’t you think you’re being manipulated by sites like this and those other dreary sites that fmw keeps referencing as if they’re irrefutably the Grail?
Mind you, not all men are susceptible to them. My husband was absolutely howling.
Hannah: Are you so naïve as to think women are impervious to such manipulations?
Why is so much money spent on advertising?
Women seem very susceptible to the ‘freedom’ thing. A famous example is the increase in female smokers after Edward Bernays’ intervention linking cigarettes to “torches of freedom”.
I’m the sort of person who feels uncomfortable with the way things are. I sense the dysfunction, I know something is wrong, and I wonder what it is.
What are you doing here Hannah?
Gay? Nah. Spurned, I’d have said, or maybe lost a job to a woman. No need to strain to be original when the obvious is usually right.
So, FM (you you you) Watkins, you figure you know all there is to know about feminism and you get to define it.
“Feminism seeks to reduce the rights of men under the assumption that men are intrinsically evil, they all hate women and have been oppressing women forever. Not only is it the male problem, it is the heterosexual problem. Men are the perpetrator, women are the victim…”
Women are ordered to be lesbian, destroy their families, hate men, steal their money, etc. etc., right?
But I’m mixed up. Is it the communist state that’s behind this, or angry, bitter women, or crazed capitalist conspirators? You still haven’t clarified that point. And what exactly is the purpose of all this?
Honey, you’re not seeing the big picture. You’re seeing the big movie screen.
LOL.
You are brainwashed Hannah (me me me) J.
Who said anything about all women not wanting independence. I am talking about an ideology, one you are so programmed by, that you cannot distinguish between it and human beings. Any attack on feminism is an attack on women? Sounds like a bit of projection on your part, you obviously rely on whatever you think feminism is as a large part of your identity. But that’s your problem, and it a general issue with women. They just cannot naturally see the big picture, instead prefering to refer everything back to themselves.
Don’t be a silly billy. Here are some more.
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/1300
http://fathersforlife.org/pizzey/how_women_were_taught_to_hate_men.htm
http://fathersforlife.org/feminism/quotes1.htm
Bitter divorce/lost custody of the kids
and
Lonely wankers
or maybe
In need of a long stay at a beautiful “hotel” in the country.
Where is the ‘live in your parents’ basement’ or ‘probably gay’ or such? Come on, be original you FemNut.
http://no-maam.blogspot.com/2007/02/ive-got-house-in-fembot-bingo.html
I mean, you actually believe all that crap? You actually believe that all women really have no interest in independence deep down–they’re just being manipulated by (cue Darth Vader music) EVIL MEN/CORPORATIONS?
Of course some women have no brain and do what others tell them. But all women? You’d love to think that, wouldn’t you? Thank God I don’t have as skewed a picture of men as you do of women.
You boys need to get out more and meet a better class of friends. Oh, and read beyond a few stupid articles that fit your conspiracy theories.
I’m torn between pegging you as:
Bitter divorce/lost custody of the kids
and
Lonely wankers
or maybe
In need of a long stay at a beautiful “hotel” in the country.
http://endofmen.wordpress.com/2007/11/30/aaron-russo-clip/
http://www.savethemales.ca/130302.html
http://www.henrymakow.com/feminist_at_the_end_of_her_rop.html
Good lord. You’re kidding, right?
If you are not really searching, then you are not going to find.
You don’t want me to spoon feed you, do you?
One of the Rockefellers made a friend of Aaron Russo. He might be a good source of information; he would not be a party to their shenanigans.
Why are you so extremely reluctant to state your beliefs about the feminist agenda?
Go ahead. You can say ‘fuck’ a lot if you want.
Why would you want to know what I believe over anything else?
We are trying to help you out by giving you some pertinent questions.
No. I was asking you what YOU believe feminism’s true objectives are.
That would have been the sentence:
“And what, pray tell, do you believe feminism’s true objectives are?”
So?
I was giving you the quote in relation to what you said about ’society’ wanting change.
I thought you were researching feminism’s true objectives. To do that you wouldn’t need to read my mind.
Who funded it?
By the way, I’m familiar with the quote–I think it’s on mineral water bottles now–but what exactly are you planning to change? I think the women’s vote/right to self-determination genie has already left the bottle.
My research into what you believe would necessarily start with asking you, don’t you think? I’m gifted, but I’m hardly a mind reader.
Or do you simply do the “what he said” thing with Mr Watkins?
Here is a quote from Margaret Mead: “Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.”
You could always do your own research Hannah.
JB, the point is that society shifts because on the whole it wants to shift.
Look at Iran. The US went in and almost literally ripped the veils from the women. The mjority didn’t want that. And so there was a backlash and things reverted, although not all the way.
Serfdom ended because our society was ready for it to end. Then men stopped submitting to their parents, because their parents were frequenly asking them to go against their own nature. So did slavery end–partly for economic reasons, admittedly, but largely because it was untenable morally.
And then it occurred to women that there was no reason why they shouldn’t have the vote; that there was no reason why they should be considered inferior intellectually. More and more men came to agree with them. So society changed.
You see feminism as a movement, with a few people with a nefarious agenda running the whole boiling of women.
Crap. It’s like politics or anything else. There’s a few berks who say they’re THE conservative thinkers, but do ALL conservatives blindly follow what they say? A few, sure. There are some women who YOU think are THE feminist leaders, but do all feminists blindly follow them? No. Most women–or at least most of the women I know–think for themselves. We are capable of that, you know, just as most men are capable of thinking for themselves.
And what, pray tell, do you believe feminism’s true objectives are?
Get angry much, FMW? My, my. No wonder you can’t think straight.
You want to blame everything bad in society on girl power, Fembots, feminazis, feminuts, and all the other oh-so-witty little insults you and other fulminating twerps come up with and regurgitate at every opportunity. And, every once in a while, you blame it on “the man”.
But not men. No, MEN are just being picked on by nasty female teachers. And corportate whores. Got to remember the corporate whores. Men, though, are completely hepless to determine their destiny and behave right.
Does some crappy stuff happen? Sure. I’ll agree that some women cry child abuse to get revenge, and that is–IMHO–downright evil. But many more cry child abuse because it’s happened. Do some women behave disgustingly, in just the way that men behave disgustingly? Sure. Some of them even cuss like you do, too. Gross when you hear it back at ya, isn’t it? Is it a manly thing to write ‘fuck’ a lot?
I’ll even agree that I hate the welfare mother mentality, although I don’t blame it on feminism (and I’ve even known a number of women who’ve used the welfare system honorably, as a springboard instead of a lifestyle). In part I’ll blame it on the ‘fuck and run’ attitude of many “men,” but in general it’s the lack of personal responsibility in a certain percentage of the population. But not all of it. That’s where you and I differ. I see many people who live their lives well and responsibly. Thank God.
Clarify something for me. Do you believe that the communist state–aka the puppet Obama, or perhaps the puppet Mr Brown–is in charge of de-balling you, or the corporate world? I’m not sure that you can have it both ways. Or are you saying that the evil corporate world (Micro Soft, perhaps) is pulling the state’s strings on their de-balling mission?
I’ll admit that I’m totally mystified by your comment about not caring what I’ve been through. What on earth are you talking about?
Hannah: I’ve not stated any position on that matter.
If I had, and I had subscribed to some major movement on the matter which has affected the whole of humanity, and I was asked that question, then I would: look at our original objectives; look at how things have turned out; decide whether or not our objectives have been met; look to see whether things have been made better or worse by our movement and whether or not our original objectives had been well conceived; decide upon new objectives that we hope will make things better, and reaffirm objectives assessed to work well; proceed with the re-evaluated objectives.
Note: with feminism it is not just individual women who are affected.
All of that assumes that it has escaped me that I can always do what I want anyway, and why have I subscribed to such a movement in the first place? What business is it of mine to tell others how they should behave? The movement should be disbanded!
There is no such appraisal going on in the feminist camp. In fact most people are misconceiving what its true objectives really are.
So let’s focus on just one. Do you think that the change that has gradually come about, the change that makes men independent of their fathers’ wishes to the point that it wouldn’t occur to most men to expect their fathers to choose their careers as they used to, is an “unmitigated” success?
Nothing has been a success. In case you haven’t noticed, society is unstable and in the process of collapse. ‘Girl power’ is leading girls to try and act like stupid blokes, getting drunk and finding themselves tits up on a bench in public.
Fathers wishes? We live in a society of welfare state single mothers. A disgusting feminised education system that drugs boys when they don’t behave like girls, where female ‘teachers’ outnumber men 12 to one. You don’t think that the Rockefeller family didn’t fund the modern feminist movement?
Feminism is a weapon. Let’s get this straight, I couldn’t give a fuck what individual people do, man or woman. What I give a fuck about is when the state adopts such sexist policies for it’s own interests. You speak of different versions of feminism, and in this case, you are right, but I don’t care about versions of a (literally) communist ideology, that celebrates berating men, and actively seeks to belittle anything they go through. Feminism is collectivist.
Seriously, for equal rights? That’s what the bloody Rule of Law is for. What we have now, is a whole host of sexist so called laws, telling women what they are entitled to. That isn’t equality, that’s bias.
I could go on all day about it, but I’ve got better things to do, that’s why this is a blog. Read the fucking articles or go away, either way, I don’t care, I have bigger fish to fry. I don’t care what you’ve been through. That’s your business. You might consider yourself a feminist, that’s also your business, I see you as an individual, as I do everyone. Ideologies, unless they are defined by logic, don’t mean shit to me, because they can be distorted, just like environmentalism was by the Club of Rome and feminism by the Rockefeller patriarchy.
I’d also like to note the constant snidey little ‘personal’ remarks this female loves to slip into her comments. There is something called FemBot bingo, you should look it up. You sheep always end up in it.
http://endofmen.wordpress.com/2007/11/08/why-feminism-is-a-fraud/
You asked me whether I think that feminism is an unmitigated success (I rather think that you should rethink your use of the word mitigated, but no matter).
I countered with a question about whether any of five other human issues are an “unmitigated” successes. You chose not to answer any of them.
So let’s focus on just one. Do you think that the change that has gradually come about, the change that makes men independent of their fathers’ wishes to the point that it wouldn’t occur to most men to expect their fathers to choose their careers as they used to, is an “unmitigated” success?
What do you want an answer to?
You could make one of my questions less redundant by actually answering one of those.
This is pointless though isn’t it? Why are you doing this?
Actually, it’s deeply unsatisfying to try to argue with someone who is completely unable to do anything other than slobber over his own (or, in this case, your hero Mr Watkins’) dogma.
I’m used to getting a more interesting discussion, or at least an answer.
Are you satisfied?
Wow. You fold easily.
You understand very little. You do not even grasp what was said, or by whom, even though it is plainly written above!
I don’t know what your game is, but you are obviously more interested in language manipulation than finding truth or anything positive and constructive.
Nope. I didn’t. You did.
I simply used slavery as an example–among five–of questions that are just as redundant as your question to me. YOU, naturally, jumped to the conclusion that I believe women were slaves.
Now let’s see. You will not engage, and are not prepared to challenge the masculine dogma. Your own challenge to “learn to think for yourself” posed above – would be better directed towards yourself than anybody here.
Men’s freedom from dharma and patriarchal dominance certainly has not been all good – contrary to what we are constantly being told – and it is only right that someone should stand up and highlight the deception. Yup. That’s about the size of it.
I understand your position perfectly well. Like all people who have never made anything in life, from a decent relationship to a successful and independent business, you believe that there are vast conspiracies to keep you ground down. In this case, you see three: feminism (ballbreaking women), socialism (ooh, that would be “the puppet” Obama) and environmentalism (yikes! they want to take away my penis-extension SUV!).
If you have read the site, why don’t you understand our position?
It is ludicrous to equate slavery to women’s role pre-feminism. It is you who did that, not me.
Whose view is the narrowest? Consider more than the line which is constantly fed to us about ‘freedom’. Who funded the feminist movement? What were their motivations?
Of course you’re not. You’re not interested in anything that doesn’t fit into your very narrow picture of feminism as some kind of emasculating conspiracy. And yes, I’ve read quite enough of the site and comments to know that.
I’m still laughing over the fact that, out of the five examples of equally redundant discussions I gave you, you focused on equating the pre-feminist feminine role as being akin to slavery. Very telling.
Naturally you choose to ignore the question of whether men should have abandoned the old ways of following their parents’ orders and footsteps. Goodness gracious. What a surprise.
Have you even read any of this site Hannah?
We are all very pleased for you that you appear to be happy. Reducing the discussion down to the life and times of ‘Hannah J’ is not something I’m interested in though.
WHAT corporate agenda? I follow my own agenda. I’m happy, self-employed, lucratively so, and have arranged my life the way it suits me and works for my family, and for that I thank God and all the people–decent men included–who have made that possible. And I thank God that my two daughters are growing up taking it for granted that they don’t have to live their lives the way you, or anyone else, think they should.
If you think that’s wrong, and a mitigated success, and it offends you, oh well.
Perhaps I should harangue you about how you should be following your dharma by being a cobbler, or a smallholder, or a tailor, just as your forefathers were, or by being apprenticed to the bootmaker as your father has ordered? Consider it done.
Do you really think it is appropriate to equate to role of women before feminism to that of slaves? Has anyone here argued that should be their role? By duly serving the corporate agenda women have been more enslaved now than they ever were before.
If you have just come here to post facetious and abusive comments, then good riddance!
Has the freedom of men from serfdom been an “unmitigated” success? How about the freeing of slaves? Has the fact that men are no longer expected to follow the career laid down for them by their fathers been an umitigated success?
Life progresses. Enlightenment dawns. Sure, some slaves found themselves abandoned and unable to make their way in a brave new world, but was it morally defensible to keep them enslaved “for their own good”? People must be free. ALL men are created equal–and that’s using the term men in the larger sense.
You may choose to sit around all day pulling your plonker and wallowing in pointless speculation, but personally I have work to do.
You will not engage, and are not prepared to challenge the feminist dogma. Your own challenge to “learn to think for yourself” posed above – would be better directed towards yourself than anybody here.
Feminism certainly has not been all good – contrary to what we are constantly being told – and it is only right that someone should stand up and highlight the deception.
I’m saying it’s a stupid question.
Hannah: Are you saying no?
JB- That’s rather like asking whether I think human existence is an unmitigated success, or whether I think the white race is an unmitigated success.
Don’t worry about being paranoid; we’re fkd:
Do you see feminism as an unmitigated success Hannah?
Ah, there you go again—YOU want to define feminism and women in YOUR terms. Guess what? Women as a group can’t be defined any more than men can. And nor can feminism.
Of course I call myself a feminist—not to do so would be a kick in the teeth for all the women since the 1890s (and even before the word feminism hit our language) who have struggled to make the world a more equal place. I thank them every time I vote. I thank them every time I remember how, years ago, when an employer groped me, I felt comfortable calling him on it instead of worrying about getting fired the way my mother did. I thank them every time I remember that when I was growing up it never occurred to me to pretend I wasn’t smart or to think that I couldn’t do anything I wanted to do, be anything I wanted to be.
There have always been, throughout history, a few women who have achieved amazing things, and started businesses, and been independent, despite the rules and mores of the time. But for the rest of us, we who are not the exceptions to the rule, thank God there were women who stood up and changed things.
Now, granted, there are branches of feminism such as militant feminism, etc. etc. etc. (Although I think it’s funny that you have a quote up there about how feminist women should be prepared to be called lesbians—I don’t think you quite get that the quote was aimed at men like you who assume that if a woman is a feminist she must therefore be a lesbian, not at telling women they should be lesbians.) But to define feminists as being those who call women who stay home with their kids “sell-outs to the sisterhood” (where do you GET this stuff? Leftovers from the 60s?) is like defining any man who doesn’t want to join a drum circle as being a frightened closet gay.
But thank you, at least, for making me laugh. I am so surrounded by strong, confident men that I forget that there are men who are frightened of women. I forget that there are people who think in tinfoil-hat clichés (“the puppet Obama”? Seriously? I have mixed feelings about him, but damn that’s a ridiculous non-thinking phrase).
Haul your head out of your pseudo-intellectual and genuinely paranoid butt and get on with actually living a life with real people.
Hannah J:
Good for you.
Firstly, research the socialist/ Marxist roots of feminism. It isn’t about freedom, it is about control.
If you’re all for being yourself and freedom etc, why call yourself a feminist, as if women who aren’t have the problem.
Why claim to be part of some ideology you don’t truly understand. Why not just be you?
Feminism isn’t about equal rights, it is alot more sinister than that. They use the cause of ‘equality’ to sell it. Just like the puppet Obama used the phrase ‘change’ to sell his scam.
I agree with you, people should be entitled to choose how they live. I’m not the one calling women who want to be stay at home mothers ’sell outs to the sisterhood’. I’m not the one saying 900 million abortions since 1920 should be celebrated as ‘girl power’.
It isn’t me throwing stink bombs in beauty pageants, shaming men into war with white feathers etc.
I’m not the one saying men should be questioned in parks with children (because they’re probably molesters), or claiming that men aren’t victims of domestic violence, or that they don’t commit suicide much, much more than women, or don’t comprise over 95% of work related deaths, blah blah.
Anyways, I wish you all the best.
http://endofmen.wordpress.com/2009/03/11/femnuts-storm-beauty-pageant-throw-stink-bombs/
http://endofmen.wordpress.com/2008/03/18/it-should-not-be-illegal-to-discriminate-against-white-men/
What a bizarre and paranoid site. I’ve rarely encountered such juvenile thought processes since I left kindergarten.
Feminism is simply a matter of giving women the right to determine their own lives. That’s it. I’m happily married with kids; I stayed home with them when they were little and now have a career that means I can be with them when necessary–because that’s what works for me and for my family.
I would most certainly count myself as a feminist and I honor the women who threw themselves under horses’ hooves to gain me the right to vote; but I’m not controlled by men, the government, or other women ( I believe you and Rush Limbaugh have a variety of rude names for the women YOU consider to be feminists).
Nor do I believe that a woman who has never held any job at all, or a woman who has never had children, or a woman who is a “housewife”, or a woman who works outside the home full-time (with or without kids) or indeed any other woman at all, to be making the “wrong” choices. A woman has the right to choose to live her life the way she wants to live it, albeit within financial constraints.
I would suggest that you and your cohorts grow up and focus on being productive rather than whinging in such an unattractive fashion. Learn to consider quotes in context, rather than distorting them to fit your own paranoid fantasies. Learn to be independent. Learn to think for yourself, instead of having your thought shaped by the actions or words of others, for God’s sake.
Women and men all have the right to live their lives as they choose. If you don’t want to be a metrosexual (?), no-one’s going to stand over you with a whip and chains–unless you ask them to, which I rather suspect might be the case.
Your site is interesting, check out our website (National Men’s Council of Ireland) and make contact if you are interested
“The future is not set. There is no fate but what we make for ourselves.”
These are the days of our lives. The previous generation sold us out before we were born.
But I will not go quietly into the night. All the chems they put in the water, the lies on the toob, crap in the food, feminism, pushing the metrosexual ‘men should act like girls’ agenda, these things won’t stop the ever growing numbers of men rising up against this system. As the NWO move closer to what they think their utopia is, more will begin to see the tyranny and will push back.
We just have to help people see who the real enemies are. It isn’t each other, it isn’t women (deep down) and it isn’t our communities.
It is the state, the media and the international organisations, the bankers, politicos, and other slimey shadow government scum.
I wonder where I got that from then. Never mind.
At some other time; I remember (I think) Channel 4 news covering Zeitgeist the movie (it was dismissed of course). Journalists in mainstream media must be aware of the conspiracy theories out there.
I wonder how much journalists sympathise with the theories – personally. I wonder how they deal with it, and whether they feel like frauds.
I don’t know how they can justify manipulating a speech to suit a preconceived idea / agenda (Susan Watts). If journalists know they are telling us rubbish – it makes them culpable too.
Can they all be yielding to their bosses? Easier just to toe the line isn’t it?!
After a bout of depression, I was feeling a little more optimistic recently. Globalisation seems to be taking a bit of a battering during these economic ‘troubles’. People’s national identity is still important to them, and they don’t like being at the mercy of international forces beyond their control.
Maybe it’s like ‘judgement day’ in Terminator though. All we can really do – is just delay the inevitable.
That wasn’t me JB. Although if I went on there the things I say would probably have the government slap a D notice on me
FMWatkins: Do I remember you appearing on Channel 4 News? It was some time ago; with Krishnan Guru-Murthy, and you were debating some woman through a video link about fluoridation or something. You wanted to talk about more, but Krishnan wouldn’t let you.
Was I dreaming?
You forgot rule 11: Wrap your head in tinfoil so that MI5 can’t intercept your thoughts.
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This webpage brings upfront the real issues of today. Yes, I am capitalist and a man but, I dispise feminism and machismo too! As a father of three beautiful and intelligent daughters I want what is best for my daughters, wife, and mother. The answer is not equality, the answer lies in total respect to any human being’s rights to a good life. The answer lies in total freedom to the individuals to achieve whatever they want as long as they do not harm or enslave anyone. I do believe that man shall be free to live his life as he wishes with the minimal intervention from the goverment or church. Goverments shall strive to give every citizen a decent education, a decent health system, a decent envirnment and safety. Aside of this issues no other issues shall be in the hand of goverment nor church. Women on the other hand shall be treated right and shall be free to chose. This statement shall not be construe as one in favor of feminism. My wife, which is a college educated women and does not believe in any religions is so sure of me and our relation that she does not mind me having other relation as long as the other will not try to play the only mine game. A game that I do not promote and I do not play! I am free to have whatever women I have and can afford because I know my resposibilities and my wife’s position. So to hell with represive Goverment, Feminist and Religion! I am a free man and I chose my way without harming anyone. I leave you with a millenary thought, “Si vis Pacemem, Parabellum!” If you want to live in peace, prepare for war! Marcus Aurellius, Emperor of the Roman Empire.
This webpage brings upfront the real issues of today. Yes, I am capitalist and a man but, I dispise feminism and machismo too! As a father of three beautiful and intelligent daughters I want what is best for my daughters, wife, and mother. The answer is not equality, the answer lies in total respect to any human being’s rights to a good life. The answer lies in total freedom to the individuals to achieve whatever they want as long as they do not harm or enslave anyone. I do believe that man shall be free to live his life as he wishes with the minimal intervention from the goverment or church. Goverments shall strive to give every citizen a decent education, a decent health system, a decent envirnment and safety. Aside of this issues no other issues shall be in the hand of goverment nor church. Women on the other hand shall be treated right and shall be free to chose. This statement shall not be construe as one in favor of feminism. My wife, which is a college educated women and does not believe in any religions is so sure of me and our relation that she does not mind me having other relation as long as the other will not try to play the only mine game. A game that I do not promote and I do not play! I am free to have whatever women I have and can afford because I know my resposibilities and my wife’s position. So to hell with represive Goverment, Feminist and Religion! I am a free man and I chose my way with harming anyone. I leave you with a millenary thought, “Si vis Pacemem, Parabellum!” If you want to live in peace, prepare for war! Marcus Aurellius, Emperor of the Roman Empire.
I was watching “This Week” (BBC1) yesterday. It was great; some honest commentary and insight into the Damian Green affair – on mainstream media!
The government’s shit must be becoming so obvious to people by now. They (Andrew Neil, Diane Abbott, Michael Portillo, with David Starkey), were talking about our broken parliamentary constitution; how Damian Green was simply guilty of a political crime; how parliament is basically lobby fodder; it operates on patronage; does not scrutinise legislature, or hold the government to account; how it is effectively a one-party state.
David Starkey used the term “neo-fascist” relating to our government, and Andrew Neil the word “communist” – which nobody refuted!
Those quotes about birth control are bullshit.
Who’s taking birth control? Highly educated, skilled, and ambitious women. Who isn’t? Uneducated, unskilled, and unhealthy women with no means to support children, nor the ability to properly raise them. One of the biggest problems society faces today is the reduced birthrate from the former group.
Women in western society have been deluded by the feminist movement to believe that rearing children is the least valuable contribution they can make to society.
The implications are frightening.
Hi Sam, I would like to write about them but to be honest I haven’t really had enough time to do so. There are a bunch of good resources regarding government waste.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bumper-Book-Government-Waste-2008/dp/1905641486/ref=pd_sim_b_1
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Big-Red-Book-Labour-Sleaze/dp/190564132X
http://www.taxpayersalliance.com/
It’s disgusting to know just how much of our hard earned money is wasted by these self-serving wankers. But hey, ignorant serfs wanted socialism…
Hi, I have been reading your blog for some time. Agree with pretty much most of your ideas. Was also wondering why you don’t cover Quangos? Also how they fit into the equation. The £167 billion+ tax payers money bin, the number of which has risen by 50% during Labour.
That’s a good q JB. I’ve always fallen on logic rather than emotions to explain things, just makes more sense.
I stopped watching television years ago when I got online, and after the novelty of 56k porn wore off I started reading lol
Things never made sense about society anyway. I remember a time when I thought the EU was a good thing! In reality I didn’t actually think it though, it was a subconsciously imprinted opinion, via the Marxist schooling system and the corporate media.
I was also pro-feminist when I was a kid. Considering I didn’t know anything about it, just shows the fucking brainwashing. And that’s what I realised. I had opinions on subjects I didn’t actually know anything about!
It first started with the Mens Rights Movement though, reading blogs that tore apart feminist ideology using facts and research. I then wanted to find out where the fuck feminism came from, as it’s way to fucked up to happen by accident. Then I researched communism, socialism, the art of propaganda etc.
Blah blah you can guess the rest. lol I must have seen 150 documentaries and read fuck knows how many papers and articles. But I can’t stop, it’s peeling back the layers of the Matrix. To solve the problem we must dissect and understand it.
And now millions of people do.
When / how did you first start to think things were not quite right – and give some credibility to these ‘alternative’ ideas yourself FMWatkins?
Yeah that sounds about right for these filthy fasicst pigs.
Gordon Brown meets European leaders as banking bill tops £2 trillion
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/economy/3199203/Gordon-Brown-meets-European-leaders-as-banking-bill-tops-2-trillion.html
Apparently this global finance crisis was predicted over a year ago and the EU did nothing. With banks being partial or wholly nationalised this gives the EU Bureaucrats greater say and control over our everyday lives. Read more about it here: http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2008/10/smoking-gun-ii-update.html
I’m aware that there is a danger; one may start off with a theory, and then pick up the evidence in support of that theory – as an afterthought. Of course; it should be the other way around.
Something is wrong. I don’t understand it all, but it just takes common sense to know things are not right. People are feeling a lot of anger; we know mega-rich people are culpable one way or the other. We also know that in all likelihood – they are going to get away with it!
I was watching ‘This Week’ with Andrew Neil. He crystallised it nicely when he said words to the effect: our ‘Great Leader’ has come up with the magnificent plan to give the banks £500 billion of our taxpayers’ money; so that they can then lend it back to us at 7-10%. Genius!
(I note that the £500 billion is being borrowed in the first place as well!) I had to laugh. As I said though; something is definitely wrong!
It isn’t possible to know with absolute accuracy what is going on. There are too many levels of distortion, disinfo and opinion. The way I deal with it is working with probabilities. Constantly reading and researching, collecting data from multiple sources, looking into real history, drawing ‘like’ points between different theories etc.
Each theory has a probability of being true. This goes with scientific theory also. Until all data about a subject is collected and quantified the absolute truth cannot be known.
The financial situation is a power grab by governments and the largest bankers over society. I will illuminate this with a logic exercise soon regarding freedom and tyranny.
Power is being consolidated. The same thing happened with the last depression. It seems to be the main reason for it. Remember these situations started at the top and worked their way down the system. Down here with us working and middle class, we cannot print money or invent financial models and use them to invent strange systems we can use to invent wealth.
The financial markets are always unstable because they seem to be full of so much invented shit. The problem isn’t that though, the problem is that the governments (under the control of said bankers) have allowed that fiat system to control the real economy.
But that’s another story lol
It’s in keeping with the idea of a NWO conspiracy isn’t it? I hope I don’t get too paranoid. It seems we need to be more wary of fascism than ever though. It is not a totalitarian state we need to be afraid of; instead we could insidiously find ourselves as cogs in the wheel of a totalitarian superstate.
Up until recently, I didn’t take conspiracy theories seriously. On closer inspection; it’s disconcerting to find just how credible the ideas really are.
Am I on the right track? It’s impossible to tell exactly what is going on. It must be impossible for anyone – or any group – to control events precisely. You can bet powerful people will use their power and influence to advance their own interests though. Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely. What checks are there on the power of international bankers and plutocrats?
I’m going to have a lie down now. I think I need it! I’m pretty sure the sun is going to rise in the morning anyway – no matter what people do.
I didn’t even mention all the taxpayer’s money that is being thrown at this!
What is your take on the current financial meltdown? More deliberate and calculated manipulation by global ‘elites’? We are now being invited to accept – nay demand – more state control in our financial systems. Overall the system is still to remain in private ownership though! The number of private financial institutions is decreasing (but they are increasing in size).
I remembered years back when I was in college I had a friend of mine who was a Jehovah Witness. He used to never stop going on about The evils of the UN. Looking back now and looking at the state of the UN he was absolutely right.
Fuck the UN and all of those socialist supranational NWO agencies.
The mere fact that these fucking fascists worship the China model of society and go around even thinking they can lecture countries like Britain on child care is ridiculous. The reason for the issues in Britain is, as you say, the state sponsored army of single mothers churning out unsocialised feral shit kids. This serves the order out of chaos agenda of the Liberal Marxist government though, so it will continue until we stop it.
Good link by the way JB. I already know of some of these, will add them to the collection.
There is a video links page, haven’t updated it in a while, just been too busy. Freedom eh?
Have you seen that the UN is sticking its oar in over how we (Brits) treat our children? It’s recently been in the news. We don’t respect their ‘rights’ enough apparently. We are just too hard on them. Fucking hell! Perhaps if they were brought up in stable families, and their mothers were there to look after them… but I don’t suppose those sort of ideas will be given much air time.
Here is an interesting link: http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=118454
You should have a links page.
The internet has quite a lot of stuff like that when you look (although some does seem to go rather over the top!). It makes the lack of serious discussion about these topics in the mainstream media, all the more notable by its absence.
Since your introduction to the idea of a NWO conspiracy; I haven’t been able to see things again – in quite the same light.
I wasn’t interested in this the first time around, but I recently saw a repeat of “Lewis Theroux’s Weird Weekends – Survivalists” (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep8efE6mIEY). Perhaps typically American, these guys don’t do things by halves! I admire their balls.
Thanks; I’ve spent a bit longer looking at some of the material on this site, and it is very thought-provoking (not to mention emotion-provoking).
I myself have thought that some sort of world government may eventually, actually be a good thing. Here is a quote, I believe from Aldous Huxley:
“One of the many reasons for the bewildering and tragic character of human existence is the fact that social organization is at once necessary and fatal. Men are forever creating such organizations for their own convenience and forever finding themselves the victims of their home-made monsters.”
It is definitely worth bearing in mind; even democracies are still capable of demonstrating fascist characteristics.
Browsing the material on this blog; I am reminded of a film I once saw, called “Brave New World” – which was inspired by a book of the same name, and written by Aldous Huxley.
We are talking about a “New World Order” conspiracy theory here aren’t we?
You’ve got to be careful with conspiracy theories. They are mostly shit!
Thank you for the comment JB and for the email.
Feminism never was about equality. Ever. It was just another limb of the Marxist fascist octopus, along with Environmentalism, Socialism, Communism, Liberalism and a whole host of other isms.
They all do the same thing. They set out to create a problem where none exists (or blow one out of proportion) for no other reason than to manipulate the public into following their agenda. I should say their public agenda, because their shadow agenda is the same. Establish a Communist totalitarian society. Total state power, zero individual rights/ freedoms.
I had a debate with that silly little tramp on that site you were on. It is typical of feminist rhetoric. They throw soundbites at you then go ‘nah nah nah not listening’ when you respond.
It is actually the behaviour of spoilt narcissistic brats, and has developed into a form of tribalism, which I guess the MRA movement is in a way, the difference being MRA’s are highly decentralised and base their statements on reality.
Something feminism must avoid at all costs. Feminism was developed to break the bonds between man and woman. The women’s lib funders (private bankers etc) knew they couldn’t easily turn men against women, so they turned women against men, something women seem to do at the drop of a hat waaaay too often.
The short story goes like this:
Feminism = Women under attack! From men and society! (Therefore) the state must control men and society to protect women. We then get things like state control of employment, control of the means of production, an ever increasing welfare/ nanny state etc.
The logical outcome of this ever increasing power and size of the state has no other end but totalitarianism.
Let’s try Environmentalism. Earth under attack! From Civilisation! (Therefore) the state must be positioned to control society and civilisation to protect the Earth. We then get things like corporate state control of energy use, control of the means of production, an ever increasing welfare/ nanny state etc.
Same deal.
These feminists identify themselves as victims. This has become their sole identity. Without this self-imposed delusion, they become nobody special (just another person) and have to go out and get a real job.
Fuck em. Don’t take it personally with those adult children. Remember, they’re Marxists and that means Communists so by definition they are Full. Of. Shit.
Me again!
I hope this is an appropriate place to post. I wonder what you make of all this. I’m just an ordinary bloke – wondering about my place in the world. I’ve been on this site before. While I was here I picked up a link to Nine Deuce’s blog. I am not a radical guy, but I do think we’ve got problems. Here is a link to a discussion I had on 9-2’s site: http://rageagainstthemanchine.com/comment-policy/#comment-2867. It’s rather long, sorry about that. (If you are thinking of posting any comments there, I probably wouldn’t bother – I don’t think it’s worth it. I’ll come to that.)
I think men and women are different. One thing we must both surely have an interest in together though; is making babies, and raising children (it’s why there are two different sexes after all). I’d say that we are currently not doing such a very good job of it though. It is my feeling that the rise of feminism has had something to do with that, by undermining the institution of marriage. What bloke would want to get married? The ‘commitment’ he gets from his woman is meaningless. (At least in practice – if you’re expecting the state to actually enforce the contract you’ve made together, as far as I can make out – it’s meaningless.)
I was setting this out on 9-2’s blog. Unfortunately, the women there do not really seem very interested in children (and perhaps, not in anything other than themselves really). The discussion was closed down by 9-2 inviting me to join an MRA site (so here I am!). Immediately after this I posted the following comment:
“Pity you want to close it down 9-2, I wasn’t sure we were finished.
We’ll see what happens anyway. I actually hold quite a bit of affection for feisty, intelligent Americans. I reckon it would be a shame to see them dying out.”
This comment was censored. I contacted 9-2 by e-mail; she says I am not banned, but she will not approve any more ‘condescending’ comments. (If I am dealing with my equals; I wonder why it is the poor flowers need to be protected from my comments? Can’t they stand up for themselves?) I guess with their special privileges, women are just so used to getting it all their own way these days! (What is this fucking “oppression” they are still going on about anyway? I am one of ‘Thatcher’s children’; some of my earliest memories are of a time when we had a female Prime Minister – who kicked arse! The idea of women being oppressed can just seem pretty ridiculous to me. I think the role of a man however, is still very strictly defined. I think that when modern women use this notion of oppression – they could very well be just being manipulative.)
The feeling I got from being on their site, is that they were all caught up in their own self-righteousness. I wanted to discuss how we were failing our children (although provocatively – I’ll admit), but they didn’t seem to get it. (They are American; some sort of language barrier perhaps?! By the way; can anyone tell me what a “rad friendship” is? I think it just means good (non-sexual) friends – but I’m not sure – anyway…). The sort of tactics they used to deal with me included: completely ignoring what I had said, and just hurling abuse; trying to steer the conversation onto other ground they were more comfortable with; and finally, just closing the debate down. I suppose everyone will just pile in now – agreeing with each other about what a great big fat shit I am.
It is a shame I have to go to either a feminist site, or an MRA one to talk about these issues. The views are so polarised (and entrenched). Within the different cliques people are just reinforcing each other’s prejudiced thinking. This can only be making things worse.
Feminism in particular now has decades of rhetoric behind it. Our young women are steeped in it. In my opinion it gives them foul attitudes. Why burden yourself with such an unrealistic, impractical dogma?
Seriously, I wonder if I’d be better off moving away from this country. (I’m a Brit.) What has become of us?!
Isn’t it about time we applied some critical thinking to this feminist dogma? Let us assess where it has got us to in an unbiased, objective way. Personally; I think that our experience of it in practice shows it needs to undergo some amendment.
The two sexes have common bonds: we share children together; and the society we live in. I would have thought those bonds should be quite strong. Can’t we work together; discuss things without all the propaganda and vitriol? Is it too much to ask? (Perhaps so, people are just that selfish these days.)
No, they must be regulated JB, in fact, I don’t even agree with the concept of corporations. That was a legal scam invented by the Queen of the England and some others (can’t remember who right now) to rape India with the East India Company.
A company should never be classed a legal entity, because it gives the real people behind a shield to protect them from the evil they spew.
Still, if information was not censored and the people were freely educated and controlled their governments, I’m sure these multi-nationals would quickly bow before them. They wouldn’t have a choice. People tend to forget that EVERYTHING revolves around The People.
Still, are you sure regulation is a bad thing? The biggest power on earth these days seems to be the massive multi-national organisations. I’d say it is scary how much power they have, and it should be countered (power corrupting and all that). This falls within the remit of government. If we could have multi-national cooperation between governments – preferably democratic governments to best reflect the will of the people – this would be a positive thing. Don’t you agree?
Okay, I notice you’ve done the equal pay thing!:
http://endofmen.wordpress.com/2007/10/30/womens-no-payday-debunked/
If I was given the choice of either working for my family and my lover, or some psychopathic corporate organisation; I know which I’d choose!
By the way; I’d say men still pay the greatest tax burden, by a ratio of almost 2:1. (Due to men’s oppression, women still do not get equal pay you see.)
Well, JB it wasn’t really good for the economy. It was good for the state and the banks because they received double tax revenues. For people however, the time of one man being able to support a family on his own pay is more or less gone because of feminism.
When women entered the workplace en mass, the supply of workers doubled. More families initially had more money. This helped corporations to peddle more crap, under the guidance of Edward Bernays. Wages then fell in response to the extra labour available.
So now two people need to work to earn about the same as that man did in the beginning. These days both parents have to work to support the increased cost of living and consumerism. More and more women are now complaining about ‘working’ and want to stay at home. Now, because of worshipping feminism they do not really have that option any more. Here are some quotes from ‘leading’ feminists.
Well done ladies.
Don’t we need some regulation? It develops civilisation.
I wonder whether ‘feminism’ would ever have found a foothold in the first place, if it hadn’t initially been in the interests of big business. More women in the workplace, means there are more workers. More workers is good for the economy.
In modern selfish, shallow and individualistic western ‘society’ – where we seem to worship money; making more money is what matters isn’t it?
Dude, I fucking hate men. You totally got me pegged right. By the way, have you seen my machete? I must have misplaced it last time I hacked a wiener off.
Wow. Well, I am just gonna say this once: feminism, to me, does not entail hating men. And if there is one feminist who doesn’t hate men, then there are others.
I could rant for hours about this, but I never found that to be a particularly useful tool of expressing myself. Everyone is entitled to their opinions.
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BOTH women and men should be held accountable for their actions, period.
That is the crux of the matter, k. Men and women should not be given different treatment under law. Not if these so-called feminists actually believe in equality.
As far as idelogies are concerned, none of them are necessary, people follow them because of personal reasons, not because of logic. You don’t need to be told what to do and think if you can do and think for yourself.
People should not be treated equally. People should be treated as they choose to behave.
Interesting ideas on this site. Wow some pretty passionate comments from the viewers. Things are not all “black or white” There is gray. Yes there are men, who are white, that are corrupt, that have great power. But there are also men, who are white, that are good men- good people. Also, of course there are good men of other races ( I mention white men because they seem to get bashed a lot) There is also plenty of sexism towards women out there. Being a woman, I have been asked by my boss in a room full of colleagues if I would put my hand on his thigh, I have been asked in interviews when I planned on having children. Mind you I am a professional with a Senior Vice President title, and I don’t dress provocatively so there are good points on both sides of the fence. If we could listen to each other, and maybe agree on some points, maybe we could start making some headway and correct some of these situations. I don’t have personal experience, but I am sure that not all lesbians are radical feminist burning bra types, and I know that not all men are a#@ holes. Not all women BASH on men and not all men BASH on women. BOTH women and men should be held accountable for their actions, period. So let me ask you folks, is there any common ground here?
Men of evil; men of treason; trators in our ranks!
Dr Dennis Neder is great , you guys have to join. But we pull NO punches.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/beingaman/
hey like your stuff, i have a mens group for ya. Do you have contact info on this page ?
Good to see a long overdue backlash against feminist lies and their lesbian agenda.For decades they have gotten away with murder injustice slander and dirty stinking LIES.
I am also sick of womens non stop insults against men. I have heard them at this crap for 3 decades.
Men MUST SPEAK OUT MORE!!!
As for women time to wake up and if you DONT WANT A taste of your own medicine – turn against feminism and help undo the injustice and slander!
Point no.9 is profound FM. Good words.
Can you please blog a story about the 2008 Equal Parenting Bike Trek. There are some exciting additions compared to 2007. We really need help in increasing the online buzz for this event. Please also pass on to other bloggers you may know. Thank you for your help and consideration.
http://cycling4children.typepad.com/cycling4childrencom/2008biketrek.html
I haven’t moderated your comments. I approve all comments manually. That way I can make sure I read them all and catch spam. I’m not on my blog constantly so sometimes comments don’t get approved for hours.
Also, for someone so concerned with censorship, it’s fairly odd that you’ve decided to moderate my comments.
As for leaving my website, your comments section doesn’t have a place to do so. It’s http://www.rageagainstthemanchine.com, if anyone cares.
Once again, you’ve misrepresented my point, and added a bunch of nonsense and stupid insults to the discussion. It’s pretty boring arguing with someone who refuses to engage in serious discussion and can do nothing but call names. Good day to you. Good luck with all the anger and paranoia.
I see, because I refuse to worship the ground women walk on, and I hold them accountable for their actions I must hate them all. Not only is that the usual response to someone who wants to silence someone with dissenting views, that also reminds me of women’s labelling of men who refuse to marry them.
When I meet people they are a basic rate of respect and opinion. Whether my opinion of them goes up or down depends on their behaviour.
I don’t hate any entire group of people. That’s ridiculous. I just know what women are capable of.
Doomed? Not me, I’m rather happy at the moment, and so is my girlfriend, sorry to disappoint you.
I think the best option for you is to go gay.
Oi oi! I feel a game of Fembot Bingo coming on…
I’m aware that this is an about page and not an article. I’ve read a few of the articles (which I already told you in the last comment, talk about lazy and spoonfeeding information), and my general opinion, after reading them and this page, is that you are an inferior intellect with no education with which to back up your obscenely illogical claims. These articles and your summary of your views as represented on this page are nothing but rants of entitlement and misplaced anger, backed up with the kinds of simplistic ad hominem insults that usually characterize the otherwise indefensible arguments of conservatism. I wonder, how can someone who hates women so much be a heterosexual? It seems you’re doomed to either a life of frustration or that whoever you end up with will be doomed to a life of abuse. I think the best option for you is to go gay. Then you won’t have to deal with us “whores”.
I’ll say it again. Read one of the articles I have written, this isn’t an article, it’s an About Page. A Summary.
I’m not going to spoon feed information that is at your fingertips. Try typing ‘The End of Freedom’ into the search engine.
I think you should read this;
The Problem With Women Today
See what I mean? You’ve got no ability to argue rationally. Instead of taking on what I’ve said, you’ve resorted to presumptive (and incorrect) personal insults.
Reading one post on the blog this big and then trying to voice your opinion as if you have read it all is lazy and presumptuous. If you think I’m going to start posting links to my articles in some sort of attempt at getting your approval, you can jog on.
It isn’t worth debating (there’s nothing to debate), pick an article I’ve written, then debate that on its comment page.
My blog, which is just one of many. Enjoy trying to fit reality into your ‘perpetual victim of the evil white male’ shaped brain.
‘The Ten Most Common Feminist Myths’
As usual? This was the first time I’ve ever commented on your blog. As for constructive, here’s what I have to offer: your arguments would work better if you had actual data and analysis, and not just cherry-picked quotes, to back them up. You are the one telling people they need to “know their enemy,” but your understanding of your own enemy is pretty rudimentary. What do you actually know about any of the -isms you refer to? Basic AM-radio bullshit, it looks like. You could construct reasoned arguments against feminism, socialism, or whatever -ism you have a problem with by giving illustrative examples, but instead you’ve chosen to misrepresent reality by setting up straw men that are easy to knock down, and by throwing the word “whore” around. My opinion of your views is irrelevant; I’m just telling you that your logic and rhetoric are weak. And as for arguing with your opinions, I’ll work on that if I ever get bored enough to take any of them seriously. For now I’m finding it hard to take pity on white men for all the injustice they suffer under a system that they control and administer.
Aileen:
A woman should be entitled to half her husbands’ earnings why exactly? That is the opposite of equal. A man shouldn’t be entitled to a woman’s wealth either, just in case you were wondering…
Nine Deuce, I don’t give a fuck what you think. As usual, your comment has nothing constructive. Still, I’m sure it made you feel ‘intelligent’ writing it. Whatever floats your boat. By the way, why didn’t you show your website in your comment, Rage Against the Man-Chine I believe. If it isn’t, forgive me, but I’m going to quote your lovely post on my comment as it presents not only typical misunderstanding and outright lies of the average femskank, but quite possible the transference of your self-loathing, (not as a new article, your blog isn’t worth it).
Of course men’s rights are absurd… Only women are allowed to voice their opinions on injustice I presume.
Actually it started with Marx > Communism > Feminism, Environmentalism but I’m sure your knowledge is as limited as your vocabulary.
I guess exposing bitches who file false rape claims and ruin men’s lives for their own personal gratification is something men aren’t allowed to bring to light eh? Well fuck you, I’ll keep doing it anyway.
Anti-white? No, anti-freedom. But that’s obviously above your girly brain to fathom. Stick to throwing everything in to the ‘women are victims’ category and voting for big government and tyranny. Angry white guy? I’m not white, although I’m thinking that you probably are… easier to fit into your stereotype isn’t it?
I take it ‘these motherfuckers’ actually means men. 99% of men do not run ‘everything’. The one percent that do actively seek to dis empower and disenfranchise the rest because we represent an obstacle to their power.
Feminism is communism.
—Yeah let’s not forget Myra Hindley longest serving prisoner for murder but not a male (shock, horror, stunned NOT). Sentanced and incarcerated for such a lengthy period entirely because she was FEMALE and didn’t fit within the social constraints of a patriarchal society and it’s dominant expectations of how a woman should behave!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Entirely because she was a female?
Uh, wasn’t she a serial killer?
You, sir, are a terrible writer. I suppose that’s no real surprise given the fact that you don’t seem to have the education or thoughtfulness required to grasp the larger social forces at work behind the phenomena you are discussing here. I could even agree with some of your positions were I to believe that you arrived at them through reason and knowledge rather than anger, but this whole blog smacks of an AM-radio education. Still, I did enjoy reading your page. You’re pretty adept at cherry-picking quotes to misrepresent people’s positions. And there’s nothing more entertaining than ignorant hubris.
‘lower custodial sentences than men’ must really suck eh.
Yeah let’s not forget Myra Hindley longest serving prisoner for murder but not a male (shock, horror, stunned NOT). Sentanced and incarcerated for such a lengthy period entirely because she was FEMALE and didn’t fit within the social constraints of a patriarchal society and it’s dominant expectations of how a woman should behave!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“total assets of the marriage were assessed at £131 million. ”
So how come she only gets £48m???? WTF she should have got £65.m in a society that treats women equally. Nope she should have got the lot for putting up with a male for more than 10 nano-seconds! As for the turning women’s prisons in to male prisons quite right! If you look at the statistics you will find equal numbers of men in prison Vs women in mental health institutions – social control different gusises!
I think I may be suffering from penis envy I mean look at the perks…………………….
Yeah I agree, poor women. Getting lower custodial sentences than men must really suck eh.
Same with legal protection in rape allegations, even if they are guilty of false claims and purjury. Then of course there’s that whole transferring of women’s wealth to men during divorce, oh, and obviously child custody too! Then the whole sexual predator over-punishment of poor vunerable women. Then women earning less than men!. And women have to ALWAYS work harder than men for the same money.
Let’s not forget of course, the desire to scrap men’s prisons and convert the remaining prisons into those for women, and the vast amount of taxpayers money funnelled into men’s health and ignoring that of women. Then finally, the fact that women are forced into having babies.
It’s a hard life, being a woman. I guess that’s why there’s International Woman’s Day.
Arhhhhhhhhhhh another sexist muppet joins the debate! So come on then let’s hear your male defined definition…………..blah, blah, blah.
FM it’s a good point you have about ‘regards to law and treatment of the sexes.’ I too am troubled by the way men are favoured and given 1st class citizenship within the legal system. Hey what do you do – other than put up and shut up!
I know what penis envy is if that helps?
LOL! You think I have low self-esteem? You wish!
I don’t know what vagina-envy is supposed to be, what would a man be envious of a woman’s vagina for? Technically it’s a void. Men have dicks, they swing them about, bang them on drums, open beer bottles, pick locks with them and whatnot.
Maybe you mean men having a problem with the injustices facing men in regards to law and treatment of the sexes.
Or maybe it means men who are intimidated by women, either way I just realised that I don’t care what it means.
This is how a guy generally thinks about the situation of dating, relationships etc:
Advice for the Nice Girl in School
Excuse me again for not having a penis ..
It’s okay, no one’s perfect. (That was a joke by the way).
…if I wear a short skirt I deserve to be raped purlease!!!!!
Now don’t be silly, no one deserves to be raped. But if you’ve got nice legs, they just may deserved to be looked at.
For a moment there I thought you were a woman – then I realised you’re suffering from what is known as ‘vagina-envy’. It’s fine to have low self-esteem which prevents you stepping up to the plate to be able to A) talk to women B) at a mutually convienient time C) in a way that actually conveys any type of communication. Excuse me again for not having a penis but yes in my world these are realistic expectations. As for the comments about tee-shirts phewwwwwwww if I wear a short skirt I deserve to be raped purlease!!!!!
I know that site. Don’t agree with the hating of men’s advances on women though. I don’t think women can last very long without male attention.
At the least, the site seems to expect only perfect men to talk to women, at the perfect time, in the perfect way, which is so insanely impossible that only women would even consider it. Also, what’s wrong with women making money using their bodies? They have been doing it forever. What’s wrong with this and this? That’s life. You could say it’s a kind of adoration for the female form. That would make it a compliment to women.
I’ve just realised something else too, the merchandise on the shop has t-shirts with text printed on the breast area. If a guy actually tries to read that I guess he’ll be sued for sexual harassment
I’m sure you’ve heard of American Women Suck? It’s rather good.
I’m just a female I can’t do reasoned argument!!!! However you may wish to check out http://www.heartlessbitches.com/
Typically incoherent coming from a femskank ‘Aileen’. Guess you’re so busy with your self-loathing that you didn’t think of typing the site’s URL properly.
It’s okay, as you’re probably a girl (sorry, a empowered woman lol), I’ll assume you meant this site:
http://www.object.org.uk/ – ‘Women not sex objects.’
Along with that, people should have a click through these…
Girls ‘would rather look pretty than have brains’
The Consumer Paradox: Scientists Find that Low Self-Esteem and Materialism Goes Hand in Hand
Feminism labeled a ’society killer’
Creating a female market
The Communist Plan for Women
Why women are never happy
Symptoms of the Matriarchy – Sexualization of girls
By the way, for other people who want to comment, it would help if you actually picked something I said and used that in your argument, because random bitching, using general terms like ‘patriarchal’ ‘male’ ’sexist’ etc just doesn’t cut the mustard here.
Thanks
Are you fucking right in the head? What a load of bullshit patriachal dominant ‘MALE’ ideology. Don’t waste your time with this crap – misogynist site, check out http://www.iobject.org.uk or go have a decent read misogyny or mental health.
Yeah Johnnypeepers, I know it well. It’s on my reading list.
I think he’s a little heavy on Christianity sometimes, but I recognise the usefulness of the religion with the development of modern society and its resilience against the NWO.
Which of course, is one of the reasons Feminism was constructed. But then I’m sure you already know that because you mentioned his site
Great site holmes. Have you ever seen henry Makow’s site “Savethemales.ca?” I think you would dig it.
‘Dave.’ You didn’t really think I was going to do what you say did you? You might be used to taking orders, but I’m not. So I won’t.
How about you make your own website talking about everything I’m talking about? And I’m not talking about some experience with me and some chick. I don’t give a fuck that you worked with some woman.
The main thrust of this site deals in large numbers, not individuals. But then you’d know what if you actually read through the site like you said you did.
Which you probably didn’t.
So fuck off, bitching like a woman on my ‘about’ page.
Yeah, I went through this site and read some of your crap. If you really want to have a sound argument, you need to involve a lot less emotions, because
1. you sound just like a woman yourself ( in other words you are bitching like a woman).
2. People with a half brain will not listen to you because you do involve emotion ( unless you are aiming at the same type of crowd that watches FOX news and loves Bill O’reilly, which do nothing in life but look for something to hate).
3. Please do research, because when you lie by saying a number like 99.9999% of men work harder than women, will not only make your reputation tainted, but will cause people to ignore you and never listen to you, because lets face it, we all have that beer buddy (unless you are him) at the bar that no one can put up with because he always has a story just like yours but better.
4. That video on your youtube about discrimination against men with the cash register that saids employing hot chicks, ummm yeah, what makes you think that the fat, ugly bitches wouldn’t be bitching about that, so it isn’t just against men, so please use better examples.
5. Use example videos that show true problems in the work place. Like for example, a bitch getting pregnant and is a shitty worker but is the least to get laid off than a guy who really does his job because it would be considered discriminating towards women who are pregnant.
6. Use real examples of how women are shitty workers: the military for example. It may be a man’s world, but if a woman complains she is sick, she can just go to sick call without having to take shit for it, or if a woman cannot handle the burden of a job, she can just pass the responsibility to a higher rank without being written up.
7. I was in the military and I have worked around mostly men, and I have to say, there is a lot of lazy, stupid motherfuckers out there. A very good ratio of women that I had to work with in the military are shitty workers, but that is also the men’s fault for trying to get down their panties by letting them get away with that shit. So yeah, I blame men for that because they are thinking with their dicks instead of their heads. Oh yeah, the best worker I ever worked with was a woman, she knew her job, and I would trust my life to her more than any guy I served with.
8. Quit posting stupid shit like this website, because all you really are doing is making men in general look dumb, proving the points of the feminists, and debunking the work of the men who are trying to stop the assholes who allow injustices.
“Ms” Eek.
Don’t you corporate whores ever have anything constructive to say?
Fucking serfs…
Is this a parody site? It’s hilarious!
I do agree that modern feminism has actually allowed for reverse discrimination against (mostly white) men, especially involved in divorce court and when it comes to child support.
Yep, active disenfranchisement of the major demographic of Western countries because they represent the biggest obstacle to destroying the sovereignty of the country, which has been the goal for decades. Mainly using political correctness, which all of the socially-damaging power hungry groups use as a blanket defence.
I thought feminism was all about letting a woman DECIDE FOR HERSELF WHAT SHE WANTS TO DO. I guess not.
It never was, it is about controlling women’s behaviour, specifically because of women’s influence over the men and children.
Here is a collection of feminist quotes:
http://no-maam.blogspot.com/2007/03/in-their-own-words.html
Dude, you are pretty much describing what is dubbed “feminazism” or “Amazon feminism”. Many moderate feminists (I am a humanist, which is FAR more inclusive than just plain feminism) just really want a better life for women to put them at the level of men in society. (Which, if you read your Bible if you are a true “Christian”, clearly states that a woman’s role is to complement, but not equate, to that of a man.)
I do agree that modern feminism has actually allowed for reverse discrimination against (mostly white) men, especially involved in divorce court and when it comes to child support.
Plus, how come feminism is so divisive? Feminists yell at women who would rather CHOOSE BY THEIR OWN GOD-GIVEN FREE WILL to be stay-at-home moms rather than have careers, choose to dress moderately (i.e. cover themselves up) rather than wear revealing clothing, choose to remain as a virgin than go out and have pre-marital or out-of-marriage sex, live by the Bible rather than by a secular “modern” society, and so forth. Last I checked, I thought feminism was all about letting a woman DECIDE FOR HERSELF WHAT SHE WANTS TO DO. I guess not. (Thank you, Mr. Kozari, for pointing this out. I still remember this lecture to this very day.)
Well put Exploited.
FMWatkins,
The majority of women are exploiting the sexist policies the globalists have forced upon the governments of developed countries who are at the mercy of the IMF and World Bank for there own personal gain.
They are hustling the system, pure and simple.
They can kill babies, sleep around, rip off marriages, extort employers, file false charges, and even murder men. They just play the poor oppressed women trying to empower herself and it flies.
“Don’t count on someone understanding when there paycheck depends on not understanding”.
Don’t expect women to understand whats going on, they have a good thing going on and do not want to understand.
Then you obviously don’t know how extreme feminists can get. When I start saying women should be culled, and laws should be passed that favour men over women, AND men should be paid as much as women, while doing less work AND men should get automatic child custody AND all women lie about rape etc…
…Then I’d have no argument against your allegation. But I haven’t said that, so I do.
The majority of modern women have a lot to answer for.
No I don’t like the heat but I will NOT get out of the kitchen. What I will do is “turn off the stove” so to speak. With that said, you don’t appear to know women very well.
All I am saying is that your posture is no different than that of a rabid man-hating feminist (whose views I find just as disturbing). Same dance different steps.
Anger is a justified emotion. Women generally are corporate whores. Their existance revolves around buying corporate crap, covering their bodies in make up and wanting everything for nothing. Women are much easier to manipulate and control hence the majority of marketing and advertising aimed at them.
It’s nothing new. I’m just saying it like it is. If you don’t like the heat, get out of the kitchen.
Actually this page isn’t very well written. It is due for a rewrite anyway.
Sorry, but you sound just as angry as the man hating feminists you accuse. You say that women aren’t the enemy but make statements that show otherwise. “…Generally corporate whores?” Give me a break.
I agree Treebs. The problem is as people are born into the controlled society, they rarely question it because they have never known any better. That’s what my blogs and those other sites out there are about.
Spreading awareness.
The question has to be asked..is it too late now??
The ghastly bubonic plague killed millions in a horrible way…but that was ay least natures’ ‘choice’- and it even went away (by itself) after a while.
Well at least into hiding for a few hundred years.
Men have been cuckolded by the clever word-smiths of ’so called’ society,as you so rightly point out FM.
Some women can be talked out of abortion.
Men- Don’t let your hormones override morality,,,stay away from immoral sexual predators-always!!
Fight ID carding of society and mind numbing water fluoridation too (both total cons)-and get a life back.